praying for the US
No matter what I or others think about who should win the elections, this is a very significant choice that will be made in the next 24 hours. A historic and world significant choice is about to be made by the American people. Let us all pray for the right outcome.
Debs and I are off to Oz for family time. We will be watching, so behave yourselves! ![]()
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Thanks, Al … have a great trip … and pray for some grace in all the responses to whatever happens. It may be closer than many think. We’ll see!
There are some who suggest some questionable associations with Obama:
http://www.newsmax.com/timmerman/farrakhan_obama_islam/2008/11/01/146685.html?s=al&promo_code=6F79-1
I would have thought Alan Hirsch would have made himself familiar with these allegations before nailing his political colours to the mast.
Will your next book support terrorism, Alan?
Hi Al & Deb
Lucy & I will certainly be joining you in praying regarding the US election.
Have a great holiday and quality family time in Oz.
Grace & peace
Newsmax has a history of not only biased, but more seriously, inaccurate reporting… based on the polls one can only hope this is another instance.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NewsMax_Media
It would be good to pray for wisdom also for all global leaders dealing with the current financial turmoil… which usually hits the poorest the hardest.
David,
Are your posts facetious? Because they come off pretty hardcore, almost too much for a public blog such as this. I think Alan has a personal email if you want to check that out and ask him yourself; moreover, in another post, he covered speaking with grace when it comes to his former post about politics.
I won’t go into my thoughts regarding the U.S. politics and peoples’ concerns regarding whether or not Christian values need to run the country. I think that’s been covered.
Peace to you David.
Alan and others, thanks so much for your prayers; my wife and I are praying for our the U.S. as well. Peace.
David, you are being downright rude. If you’re going to make the comments you made toward Alan, and then post something with the comment people haven’t been reading their Bible, then maybe you should take a peek at yours, perhaps especially Ephesians 4:29
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I see right now through your posts that you are using spiritual manipulation, holding grudges/unforgiveness, standing in God’s place as judge, and causing a spirit of disunity in the body of Christ with your attitude. Stop it. Just stop it.
Alan,
I’ve been praying and lamenting. Began reading Brueggmann,”The Prophetic Imagination”, in reference to Moses and the Exodus,quote: “He (Moses) was not engaged in a struggle to transform a regime; rather, his concern was with the consciousness that undergirded and made such a regime possible.”
My prayer is that as agents of promise, the Holy Spirit gives us guidance, that we are energized not by what we are given, but by what has been promised. That the imagination of justice and compassion gives us the vision to experience and share God’s freedom. The freedom to advance His kingdom through the empowering and building of new communities. And may we all personally experience this energizing joy through His love, truth, and Spirit. Peace be with you!
David,
Your post doesn’t even deserve attention. I adjure everyone to ignore him from this point on. Your statement about Alan supporting terrorists. Ask the 6 year old Iraqi girl with a leg blown off and a dead father who the terrorists are. A very, very unChristlike attitude and spirit coming from you David.
I like your prayer, Penney. I’ve almost finished reading Brueggemann’s “Mandate to Difference”, and I’ve been able to use some of his Scriptural inspiration as prayer focus for my “incarnational missional” adventure here in Sydney.
For US voters and those interested, here is a link for election maps which some of you might find illuminating.
http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mejn/election/2008/
One of the most inspiring NT passages for me lately has been Eph 1:20-23
(The Message) “God raised him from death and set him on a throne in deep heaven, in charge of running the universe, everything from galaxies to governments, no name and no power exempt from his rule. And not just for the time being, but forever. He is in charge of it all, has the final word on everything. At the center of all this, Christ rules the church. The church, you see, is not peripheral to the world; the world is peripheral to the church. The church is Christ’s body, in which he speaks and acts, by which he fills everything with his presence.”
If DNA can be affected by environmental factors, then I’m excited by the prospect of this text being a creative environment for mDNA!
Thank you for the prayers Alan. I’m very excited about the outcome of this election.
DAvid, you are now crossing the line. Take a hike!
All,
Pray for David.
Sometimes, in times like this recent election, we forget who we are (should be). We want a government that will take care of the poor and those who can’t take care of themselves. But, Jesus said for US to do that. We want a government that will make sure that we have money. But, Jesus said not to depend on money and Wall Street and 401k. We want ill to happen to those we don’t like or who could harm us. But, Jesus said to love and pray for our neighbor and out enemy. I thank God for what Paul wrote in Col 1:13
- He has delivered us from the dominion of darkness and brought us into the Kingdom of the Son He loves…
Christians should care for the poor… of course. But does that mean noone else should care for the poor? That Muslims should be forbidden from giving alms? That non-Christians shouldn’t be allowed to give money to World Vision? That governments should take no responsibility whatsoever for vulnerable citizens? That only Christians should be allowed to do good?
If so, I have to disagree… wherever kindness and generosity and care is expressed, a little bit of the Kingdom is breaking in to the world. But don’t fear that Christians won’t have job to do… “the poor will always be with you”. (I don’t know if I’ve misinterpreted you).
I do love your reminder to pray for both neighbor and enemy… to be a people of grace.
Janet,
I think you read more into my comment than I meant. But, thank you for asking. (I tried not to write a book :-)(I’ll try not to again)). Perhaps my comment was what was on my mind and didn’t follow the flow of comments.
So much of the political atmosphere even among “Christians” gets to be about I want this candidate because he/she will do ___ for me (or for others). I agree that it is good for non-Christians to do good for others and for governments to help those in need. For some church-goers, though, “President” is about protecting my wealth or supporting the war. For others, it may be about helping the poor with money or food or housing.
I guess my point was that whatever a government or a candidate does or doesn’t do, Christ followers should not forget their role as light and salt wherever they are and in whatever political climate. Not that others cannot do good.
Thanks for the clarification David J… I was probably responding in the context of some comments on the “Obama or McCain” thread, that seemed to imply all government welfare is a bad thing because if all aid comes through Christians then Jesus gets the glory.
Now maybe my assessment of these comments is grossly inaccurate… but I do try to be a “both/and” thinker rather than an “either/or” thinker. And I feel like there’s been a bit of this kind of simplism going around on these threads.
But I do completely agree our first loyalty is to a different kingdom altogether, and that we shouldn’t over-focus on the kingdoms of this world. And I agree that Christians all too often vote with a selfish agenda… we should be the last people to vote out of self-interest.
I for one am happy that the election is over and our country can move on. We need to move away from this divisiveness that is killing us. It is hurting us both in Politics and Religion.
I am not saying that we should agree with everyone, however there is a moment when we stomp on someone else because we disagree.
Alan, I join you in praying for this nation and for those who are hurt by the results.
God Bless,
Tom
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